2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier vs 2026 Commencal Meta SX Signature
The L is the Commencal Meta SX Signature size closest to your S3 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Commencal Meta SX Signature
Compared with the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier in S3, the Commencal Meta SX Signature in L places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 9 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 9 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −2 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- +9 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −9 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +0.9°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- −13 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, S3Commencal Meta SX Signature, LDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Forbidden Dreadnought Tier S3 | Commencal Meta SX Signature L | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 471 | 480 | +9 mm |
| Stack | 645 | 642.8 | −2 mm |
| Head tube angle | 63.1 | 64 | +0.9° |
| Seat tube angle | 77.1 | 77.5 | +0.4° |
| Effective top tube | 618 | 621.9 | +4 mm |
| Chainstay length | 460 | 447 | −13 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1288.8 | 1280.2 | −9 mm |
| BB drop | -19.6 | not listed | |
| BB height | 341 | not listed | |
| Standover | 777 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 440 | 440 | ±0 mm |
| Head tube length | 120 | 125 | +5 mm |
Differences are the Commencal Meta SX Signature minus the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. Full charts: 2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, 2026 Commencal Meta SX Signature.
Where each sits in its class
Forbidden Dreadnought TierCommencal Meta SX Signature
Each bike is ranked against the other enduro bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Forbidden Dreadnought TierTier 1 | Commencal Meta SX SignatureSignature |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Forbidden Dreadnought V2 | not listed |
| Fork | RockShox ZEB Ultimate | Fox 38 Factory |
| Rear shock | RockShox Vivid Ultimate | Fox Float X2 Factory |
| Shifter | SRAM Pod Rocker Controller | SRAM Eagle 90 Transmission |
| Derailleur | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM GX Eagle Transmission |
| Cassette | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM GX Eagle |
| Chain | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM GX Eagle Transmission |
| Crankset | SRAM X0 Eagle | SRAM X0 E |
| Chainring | SRAM X0 Eagle | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM DUB | SRAM DUB92 |
| Wheelset | crankbrothers Synthesis 11 | DT Swiss EX1700 |
| Tire | Maxxis Assegai, Maxxis Forekaster | Maxxis Assegai, Maxxis Minion DHR II DD |
| Brake | SRAM Maven Ultimate | Shimano XT |
| Rotor | SRAM HS2 | Shimano MT905 |
| Handlebar | Burgtec Ride Wide Enduro | RIDE ALPHA |
| Stem | OneUp Components Forged | Ride Alpha 40 |
| Grips | Forbidden lock-on | ODI Longneck V2.1 |
| Headset | Cane Creek Hellbender 70 | Acros ZS56/ZS56 |
| Dropper post | OneUp Components Dropper | One Up V3 |
| Seatpost | OneUp Components Setback | OneUp Components V3 |
| Saddle | fizik Terra Alpaca X5 | fizik Terra Ridon X5 |
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