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2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier vs 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9

The M is the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 size closest to your S2 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9

Compared with the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier in S2, the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 in M places the top of the head tube 9 mm higher and 10 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 8 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+9 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+10 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+8 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
+0.4°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
n/a
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The two frames

2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier (S2)The Forbidden Dreadnought Tier frame drawn to scale.J 1248

Only the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier is drawn. The Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementForbidden Dreadnought Tier S2Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 MDifference
Reach450460+10 mm
Stack632641+9 mm
Head tube angle63.163.5+0.4°
Seat tube angle77.178+0.9°
Effective top tube595not listed
Chainstay length446not listed
Wheelbase1247.61256+8 mm
BB drop-19.6not listed
BB height341not listed
Standover775not listed
Seat tube length420not listed
Head tube length105not listed

Differences are the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 minus the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. Full charts: 2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9.

Where each sits in its class

Forbidden Dreadnought TierLapierre Spicy CF 8.9

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other enduro bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartForbidden Dreadnought TierTier 1Lapierre Spicy CF 8.98.9
FrameForbidden Dreadnought V2Lapierre Spicy
ForkRockShox ZEB UltimateFox 38 Factory
Rear shockRockShox Vivid UltimateFox Float X2 Factory
ShifterSRAM Pod Rocker ControllerShimano XT M8100 12s
DerailleurSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100 12s Shadow+
CassetteSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100
ChainSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100
CranksetSRAM X0 EagleShimano XT
ChainringSRAM X0 Eaglenot listed
Bottom bracketSRAM DUBShimano MT801 BSA
Wheelsetcrankbrothers Synthesis 11DT Swiss EX1700 SPLINE
TireMaxxis Assegai, Maxxis ForekasterSchwalbe Magic Mary Evo, Schwalbe Big Betty
BrakeSRAM Maven UltimateShimano XT M8100 4 pistons
RotorSRAM HS2Shimano SM-RT30
HandlebarBurgtec Ride Wide EnduroLapierre Thirty Five
StemOneUp Components Forgednot listed
GripsForbidden lock-onnot listed
HeadsetCane Creek Hellbender 70not listed
Dropper postOneUp Components DropperTranzX RAD+ 150mm
SeatpostOneUp Components Setbacknot listed
Saddlefizik Terra Alpaca X5WTB Volt

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