2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier vs 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9
The XL is the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 size closest to your S4 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9
Compared with the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier in S4, the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 in XL places the top of the head tube 5 mm lower and 14 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 12 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −5 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- +14 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −12 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +0.4°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- −25 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, S4Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Forbidden Dreadnought Tier S4 | Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 491 | 505 | +14 mm |
| Stack | 659 | 654 | −5 mm |
| Head tube angle | 63.1 | 63.5 | +0.4° |
| Seat tube angle | 77.1 | 78 | +0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 641 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 475 | 450 | −25 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1330.0 | 1318 | −12 mm |
| BB drop | -19.6 | not listed | |
| BB height | 341 | not listed | |
| Standover | 780 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 470 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 135 | not listed |
Differences are the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 minus the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. Full charts: 2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9.
Where each sits in its class
Forbidden Dreadnought TierLapierre Spicy CF 8.9
Each bike is ranked against the other enduro bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Forbidden Dreadnought TierTier 1 | Lapierre Spicy CF 8.98.9 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Forbidden Dreadnought V2 | Lapierre Spicy |
| Fork | RockShox ZEB Ultimate | Fox 38 Factory |
| Rear shock | RockShox Vivid Ultimate | Fox Float X2 Factory |
| Shifter | SRAM Pod Rocker Controller | Shimano XT M8100 12s |
| Derailleur | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | Shimano XT M8100 12s Shadow+ |
| Cassette | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | Shimano XT M8100 |
| Chain | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | Shimano XT M8100 |
| Crankset | SRAM X0 Eagle | Shimano XT |
| Chainring | SRAM X0 Eagle | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM DUB | Shimano MT801 BSA |
| Wheelset | crankbrothers Synthesis 11 | DT Swiss EX1700 SPLINE |
| Tire | Maxxis Assegai, Maxxis Forekaster | Schwalbe Magic Mary Evo, Schwalbe Big Betty |
| Brake | SRAM Maven Ultimate | Shimano XT M8100 4 pistons |
| Rotor | SRAM HS2 | Shimano SM-RT30 |
| Handlebar | Burgtec Ride Wide Enduro | Lapierre Thirty Five |
| Stem | OneUp Components Forged | not listed |
| Grips | Forbidden lock-on | not listed |
| Headset | Cane Creek Hellbender 70 | not listed |
| Dropper post | OneUp Components Dropper | TranzX RAD+ 150mm |
| Seatpost | OneUp Components Setback | not listed |
| Saddle | fizik Terra Alpaca X5 | WTB Volt |
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