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2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier vs 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9

The Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 size closest to your S2 is the M. Compare the M instead

What changes on the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9

Compared with the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier in S2, the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 in XS places the top of the head tube 5 mm lower and 40 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 48 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
−5 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
−40 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−48 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
+0.4°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
−6 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier (S2) and 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 (XS), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Forbidden Dreadnought Tier is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 is the colored outline on top.J 1248

Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, S2Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9, XSDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementForbidden Dreadnought Tier S2Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 XSDifference
Reach450410−40 mm
Stack632627−5 mm
Head tube angle63.163.5+0.4°
Seat tube angle77.178+0.9°
Effective top tube595not listed
Chainstay length446440−6 mm
Wheelbase1247.61200−48 mm
BB drop-19.6not listed
BB height341not listed
Standover775not listed
Seat tube length420not listed
Head tube length105not listed

Differences are the Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9 minus the Forbidden Dreadnought Tier. Full charts: 2025 Forbidden Dreadnought Tier, 2025 Lapierre Spicy CF 8.9.

Where each sits in its class

Forbidden Dreadnought TierLapierre Spicy CF 8.9

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other enduro bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartForbidden Dreadnought TierTier 1Lapierre Spicy CF 8.98.9
FrameForbidden Dreadnought V2Lapierre Spicy
ForkRockShox ZEB UltimateFox 38 Factory
Rear shockRockShox Vivid UltimateFox Float X2 Factory
ShifterSRAM Pod Rocker ControllerShimano XT M8100 12s
DerailleurSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100 12s Shadow+
CassetteSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100
ChainSRAM X0 Eagle TransmissionShimano XT M8100
CranksetSRAM X0 EagleShimano XT
ChainringSRAM X0 Eaglenot listed
Bottom bracketSRAM DUBShimano MT801 BSA
Wheelsetcrankbrothers Synthesis 11DT Swiss EX1700 SPLINE
TireMaxxis Assegai, Maxxis ForekasterSchwalbe Magic Mary Evo, Schwalbe Big Betty
BrakeSRAM Maven UltimateShimano XT M8100 4 pistons
RotorSRAM HS2Shimano SM-RT30
HandlebarBurgtec Ride Wide EnduroLapierre Thirty Five
StemOneUp Components Forgednot listed
GripsForbidden lock-onnot listed
HeadsetCane Creek Hellbender 70not listed
Dropper postOneUp Components DropperTranzX RAD+ 150mm
SeatpostOneUp Components Setbacknot listed
Saddlefizik Terra Alpaca X5WTB Volt

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