2026 Forbidden Druid Tier vs 2027 Santa Cruz Tallboy FA
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Santa Cruz Tallboy FA
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −0.2°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- −31 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Only the Forbidden Druid Tier is drawn. The Santa Cruz Tallboy FA numbers we have for size M are missing the reach, stack and wheelbase.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Forbidden Druid Tier S4 | Santa Cruz Tallboy FA M | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 500 | not listed | |
| Stack | 651 | not listed | |
| Head tube angle | 65.0 | 64.8 | −0.2° |
| Seat tube angle | 77 | 77 | ±0.0° |
| Effective top tube | 650 | 596 | −54 mm |
| Chainstay length | 466 | 435.5 | −31 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1300 | not listed | |
| BB drop | -35 | not listed | |
| BB height | 337 | not listed | |
| Standover | 730 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 470 | not listed | |
| Fork length | 561 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 135 | 115 | −20 mm |
Differences are the Santa Cruz Tallboy FA minus the Forbidden Druid Tier. Full charts: 2026 Forbidden Druid Tier, 2027 Santa Cruz Tallboy FA.
Where each sits in its class
Forbidden Druid TierSanta Cruz Tallboy FA
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Forbidden Druid TierTier 1 | Santa Cruz Tallboy FAXX AXS FA RSV |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Forbidden Druid | not listed |
| Fork | RockShox Lyrik Ultimate | RockShox Pike Flight Attendant Ultimate |
| Rear shock | RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Trunnion | RockShox Super Deluxe Flight Attendant Ultimate |
| Derailleur | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM XX SL Eagle Transmission |
| Cassette | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM XX SL 1299 Eagle Transmission |
| Chain | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission | SRAM XX SL Eagle Transmission |
| Crankset | SRAM XX Eagle Transmission DH | SRAM XX SL Eagle Power Meter Transmission |
| Wheelset | DT Swiss 240 SPLINE | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Minion DHF/Dissector 2 | Maxxis Dissector |
| Brake | SRAM Maven Ultimate | SRAM Maven Carbon Ultimate |
| Rotor | SRAM HS2 | SRAM HS2 |
| Handlebar | OneUp Components V3 | not listed |
| Headset | Cane Creek 40 | Chris King DropSet 3 50th Anniversary Integrated Headset |
| Dropper post | OneUp Components V3 | OneUp Components Dropper Post |
| Saddle | Forbidden standard | WTB Silverado Medium Fusion |
| Shifter | not listed | SRAM Pod Rocker Controller |
| Bottom bracket | not listed | SRAM DUB 68/73mm Threaded BB |
| Rim | not listed | Reserve 30|SL Carbon |
| Stem | not listed | Industry Nine A35 |
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