2027 Giant Stance E+ vs 2026 Forbidden Heathen Framekit
The S4 is the Forbidden Heathen Framekit size closest to your XL Giant Stance E+. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Forbidden Heathen Framekit
Compared with the Giant Stance E+ in XL, the Forbidden Heathen Framekit in S4 places the top of the head tube 7 mm lower and 10 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 51 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −7 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −10 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −51 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Giant Stance E+ is drawn. The Forbidden Heathen Framekit numbers we have for size S4 are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Giant Stance E+ XL | Forbidden Heathen Framekit S4 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 505 | 495 | −10 mm |
| Stack | 655 | 648 | −7 mm |
| Head tube angle | 64.5° | 64 | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 76.5° | 76 | −0.5° |
| Chainstay length | 468 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1322 | 1270.6 | −51 mm |
| BB drop | 26 | not listed | |
| Standover | 762 | 764 | +2 mm |
| Seat tube length | 475 | 470 | −5 mm |
| Head tube length | 145 | 120 | −25 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 657 | |
| BB height | not listed | 311 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 541 |
Differences are the Forbidden Heathen Framekit minus the Giant Stance E+. Full charts: 2027 Giant Stance E+, 2026 Forbidden Heathen Framekit.
Where each sits in its class
Giant Stance E+Forbidden Heathen Framekit
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Giant Stance E+E+ 0 | Forbidden Heathen Framekit |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Giant ALUXX SL-grade | not listed |
| Fork | Fox Rhythm | not listed |
| Rear shock | Fox Float | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Cues LinkGlide | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore XT | not listed |
| Cassette | Shimano Cues LinkGlide | not listed |
| Chain | Shimano Linkglide | not listed |
| Pedals | Giant Large | not listed |
| Motor | Giant SyncDrive Pro3X | not listed |
| Battery | Giant EnergyPak | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Minion DHF | not listed |
| Hub | Giant E-Drive | not listed |
| Rim | Giant TRA2 | not listed |
| Brake | Shimano Deore XT, Shimano XT M8100 | not listed |
| Handlebar | Giant Connect TR35 | not listed |
| Stem | Giant Contact SL 35 | not listed |
| Grips | Giant Tactal | not listed |
| Seatpost | Giant Contact Switch AT | not listed |
| Saddle | Giant Contact | not listed |
| Fender | Giant MRP | not listed |
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