2027 Giant Stance E+ vs 2026 Forbidden Heathen Framekit
The Forbidden Heathen Framekit size closest to your M is the S2. Compare the S2 instead
What changes on the Forbidden Heathen Framekit
Compared with the Giant Stance E+ in M, the Forbidden Heathen Framekit in S4 places the top of the head tube 20 mm higher and 40 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 12 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- +20 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +40 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +12 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Giant Stance E+ is drawn. The Forbidden Heathen Framekit numbers we have for size S4 are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Giant Stance E+ M | Forbidden Heathen Framekit S4 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 455 | 495 | +40 mm |
| Stack | 628 | 648 | +20 mm |
| Head tube angle | 64.5° | 64 | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 76.5° | 76 | −0.5° |
| Chainstay length | 468 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1259 | 1270.6 | +12 mm |
| BB drop | 26 | not listed | |
| Standover | 744 | 764 | +20 mm |
| Seat tube length | 425 | 470 | +45 mm |
| Head tube length | 115 | 120 | +5 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 657 | |
| BB height | not listed | 311 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 541 |
Differences are the Forbidden Heathen Framekit minus the Giant Stance E+. Full charts: 2027 Giant Stance E+, 2026 Forbidden Heathen Framekit.
Where each sits in its class
Giant Stance E+Forbidden Heathen Framekit
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Giant Stance E+E+ 0 | Forbidden Heathen Framekit |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Giant ALUXX SL-grade | not listed |
| Fork | Fox Rhythm | not listed |
| Rear shock | Fox Float | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Cues LinkGlide | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore XT | not listed |
| Cassette | Shimano Cues LinkGlide | not listed |
| Chain | Shimano Linkglide | not listed |
| Pedals | Giant Large | not listed |
| Motor | Giant SyncDrive Pro3X | not listed |
| Battery | Giant EnergyPak | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Minion DHF | not listed |
| Hub | Giant E-Drive | not listed |
| Rim | Giant TRA2 | not listed |
| Brake | Shimano Deore XT, Shimano XT M8100 | not listed |
| Handlebar | Giant Connect TR35 | not listed |
| Stem | Giant Contact SL 35 | not listed |
| Grips | Giant Tactal | not listed |
| Seatpost | Giant Contact Switch AT | not listed |
| Saddle | Giant Contact | not listed |
| Fender | Giant MRP | not listed |
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