2025 Liv Devote Advanced vs 2024 Santa Cruz Stigmata
The S is the Santa Cruz Stigmata size closest to your S Liv Devote Advanced. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Santa Cruz Stigmata
Compared with the Liv Devote Advanced in S, the Santa Cruz Stigmata in S places the top of the head tube 20 mm higher and 6 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 24 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- +20 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +6 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +24 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −1.0°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Liv Devote Advanced is drawn. The Santa Cruz Stigmata numbers we have for size S are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Liv Devote Advanced S | Santa Cruz Stigmata S | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 384 | 390 | +6 mm |
| Stack | 544 | 564 | +20 mm |
| Head tube angle | 70.5 | 69.5° | −1.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.5 | 74° | −0.5° |
| Chainstay length | 425 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1019 | 1043 | +24 mm |
| BB drop | 80 | 78 | −2 mm |
| Standover | 708 | 728 | +20 mm |
| Seat tube length | 420 | 455 | +35 mm |
| Head tube length | 110 | 105 | −5 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 552 | |
| BB height | not listed | 278 |
Differences are the Santa Cruz Stigmata minus the Liv Devote Advanced. Full charts: 2025 Liv Devote Advanced, 2024 Santa Cruz Stigmata.
Where each sits in its class
Liv Devote AdvancedSanta Cruz Stigmata
Each bike is ranked against the other gravel bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Liv Devote AdvancedAdvanced 0 | Santa Cruz StigmataApex |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Liv Devote | not listed |
| Fork | Liv fork | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano GRX RX820 RX | SRAM Apex XPLR |
| Cassette | Shimano HG710 | SRAM XG-1251 XPLR 10-44t |
| Chain | KMC X12L-1 | not listed |
| Crankset | Shimano GRX FC-RX600 | SRAM Apex DUB Wide |
| Chainring | Shimano GRX | not listed |
| Wheelset | Giant CXR 2 Carbon | not listed |
| Tire | Cadex GX | Maxxis Rambler |
| Brake | Shimano GRX RX820 | not listed |
| Rotor | Shimano Rotor | Avid Centerline |
| Handlebar | Giant Contact XR D-Fuse | Zipp Service Course 70 XPLR AL Bar |
| Seatpost | Giant D-Fuse SL | Zipp Service Course |
| Saddle | Liv Approach | WTB Silverado Medium |
| Shifter | not listed | SRAM Apex |
| Bottom bracket | not listed | SRAM DUB |
| Hub | not listed | DT Swiss 370 |
| Rim | not listed | WTB EZR i23p |
| Stem | not listed | Zipp Service Course Stem |
| Headset | not listed | Cane Creek 40 IS Integrated Headset |
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