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2025 Liv Devote Advanced vs 2024 Santa Cruz Stigmata

The S is the Santa Cruz Stigmata size closest to your S Liv Devote Advanced. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Santa Cruz Stigmata

Compared with the Liv Devote Advanced in S, the Santa Cruz Stigmata in S places the top of the head tube 20 mm higher and 6 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 24 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+20 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+6 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+24 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
−1.0°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
n/a
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The two frames

2025 Liv Devote Advanced (S)The Liv Devote Advanced frame drawn to scale.J 1019

Only the Liv Devote Advanced is drawn. The Santa Cruz Stigmata numbers we have for size S are missing the chainstay length.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementLiv Devote Advanced SSanta Cruz Stigmata SDifference
Reach384390+6 mm
Stack544564+20 mm
Head tube angle70.569.5°−1.0°
Seat tube angle74.574°−0.5°
Chainstay length425not listed
Wheelbase10191043+24 mm
BB drop8078−2 mm
Standover708728+20 mm
Seat tube length420455+35 mm
Head tube length110105−5 mm
Effective top tubenot listed552
BB heightnot listed278

Differences are the Santa Cruz Stigmata minus the Liv Devote Advanced. Full charts: 2025 Liv Devote Advanced, 2024 Santa Cruz Stigmata.

Where each sits in its class

Liv Devote AdvancedSanta Cruz Stigmata

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other gravel bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartLiv Devote AdvancedAdvanced 0Santa Cruz StigmataApex
FrameLiv Devotenot listed
ForkLiv forknot listed
DerailleurShimano GRX RX820 RXSRAM Apex XPLR
CassetteShimano HG710SRAM XG-1251 XPLR 10-44t
ChainKMC X12L-1not listed
CranksetShimano GRX FC-RX600SRAM Apex DUB Wide
ChainringShimano GRXnot listed
WheelsetGiant CXR 2 Carbonnot listed
TireCadex GXMaxxis Rambler
BrakeShimano GRX RX820not listed
RotorShimano RotorAvid Centerline
HandlebarGiant Contact XR D-FuseZipp Service Course 70 XPLR AL Bar
SeatpostGiant D-Fuse SLZipp Service Course
SaddleLiv ApproachWTB Silverado Medium
Shifternot listedSRAM Apex
Bottom bracketnot listedSRAM DUB
Hubnot listedDT Swiss 370
Rimnot listedWTB EZR i23p
Stemnot listedZipp Service Course Stem
Headsetnot listedCane Creek 40 IS Integrated Headset

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