2018 Marin Gestalt vs 2018 Salsa Warbird Carbon
The 58 is the Salsa Warbird Carbon size closest to your 58 Marin Gestalt. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Salsa Warbird Carbon
Compared with the Marin Gestalt in 58, the Salsa Warbird Carbon in 58 places the top of the head tube 4 mm lower and 12 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 9 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- −5 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −12 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +9 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- +13 mm
- Longer: more planted
The two frames
Marin Gestalt, 58Salsa Warbird Carbon, 58Drawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Marin Gestalt 58 | Salsa Warbird Carbon 58 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 398 | 385.8 | −12 mm |
| Stack | 620.3 | 615.8 | −5 mm |
| Head tube angle | 72.5 | 72 | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 72.5 | −0.5° |
| Effective top tube | 587 | 580 | −7 mm |
| Chainstay length | 417 | 430 | +13 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1026 | 1034.9 | +9 mm |
| BB drop | 72 | 70 | −2 mm |
| BB height | 271 | not listed | |
| Standover | 833 | 823.6 | −9 mm |
| Seat tube length | 550 | 575 | +25 mm |
| Head tube length | 190 | 185 | −5 mm |
| Fork length | not listed | 405 |
Differences are the Salsa Warbird Carbon minus the Marin Gestalt. Full charts: 2018 Marin Gestalt, 2018 Salsa Warbird Carbon.
Where each sits in its class
Marin GestaltSalsa Warbird Carbon
Each bike is ranked against the other gravel bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Marin Gestalt1 | Salsa Warbird Carbon |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Marin Gestalt | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Sora | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano Sora | not listed |
| Chain | KMC X9 | not listed |
| Crankset | Shimano Sora R345 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano Octalink V2 | not listed |
| Pedals | Marin Commute Platform | not listed |
| Tire | Schwalbe G-ONE Performance | not listed |
| Brake | Tektro Spyre-C | not listed |
| Handlebar | Marin Compact Drop | not listed |
| Stem | Marin 3D | not listed |
| Grips | Marin perforated tape | not listed |
| Headset | FSA No.8B | not listed |
| Saddle | Marin Beyond Road Concept Elite | not listed |
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