2020 Merida SPEEDER LIMITED vs 2018 Surly Ogre
The Surly Ogre size closest to your ML is the M. Compare the M instead
What changes on the Surly Ogre
Compared with the Merida SPEEDER LIMITED in ML, the Surly Ogre in S places the top of the head tube 14 mm lower and 8 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 16 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −14 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −9 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −16 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- ±0.0°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- +2 mm
- About the same
The two frames
Merida SPEEDER LIMITED, MLSurly Ogre, SDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Merida SPEEDER LIMITED ML | Surly Ogre S | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 404 | 395.5 | −9 mm |
| Stack | 606 | 592 | −14 mm |
| Head tube angle | 71.5 | 71.5° | ±0.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.5 | 73.0° | −0.5° |
| Effective top tube | 583 | 575 | −8 mm |
| Chainstay length | 438 | 440 | +2 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1065 | 1049.4 | −16 mm |
| BB drop | 65 | 68 | +3 mm |
| Standover | 806 | 763.5 | −43 mm |
| Seat tube length | 540 | 406.4 | −134 mm |
| Fork length | 395 | 447 | +52 mm |
| Head tube length | 190 | 110 | −80 mm |
Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Merida SPEEDER LIMITED. Full charts: 2020 Merida SPEEDER LIMITED, 2018 Surly Ogre.
Where each sits in its class
Merida SPEEDER LIMITEDSurly Ogre
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Merida SPEEDER LIMITEDLIMITED | Surly OgreOgre |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Merida SPEEDER LITE II | Surly Ogre |
| Fork | Merida SPEEDER CF2 | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM Apex | Shimano Deore |
| Derailleur | SRAM Apex 1 | Shimano Deore Front, Shimano Deore Rear |
| Cassette | SRAM PG 1130 | Shimano HG50 |
| Chain | KMC X11 | KMC X10 |
| Pedals | VPE-891 | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Detonator | Surly Extraterrestrial |
| Brake | Shimano MT200 | Avid BB7, Tektro FR5 |
| Rotor | Shimano SM-RT10 | not listed |
| Handlebar | Merida EXPERT CC | Surly Moloko |
| Stem | Merida EXPERT CC | Kalloy AS-008 |
| Grips | Merida COMP EC | Velo Black |
| Headset | Merida M2341 Neck | Cane Creek 40 |
| Seatpost | Merida COMP CC | Kalloy SP-342 |
| Crankset | not listed | Shimano T551 |
| Chainring | not listed | Shimano T551 |
| Bottom bracket | not listed | SRAM PowerSpline |
| Rim | not listed | WTB i29 |
| Saddle | not listed | WTB Volt Sport |
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