2025 Orbea Orca M20i LTD vs 2025 Pinarello F1
The 450 is the Pinarello F1 size closest to your 47 Orbea Orca M20i LTD. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Pinarello F1
Compared with the Orbea Orca M20i LTD in 47, the Pinarello F1 in 450 places the top of the head tube 12 mm higher and 5 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- +12 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- −5 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −2 mm
- About the same
The two frames
Only the Orbea Orca M20i LTD is drawn. The Pinarello F1 numbers we have for size 450 are missing the wheelbase.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Orbea Orca M20i LTD 47 | Pinarello F1 450 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 370 | 365.2 | −5 mm |
| Stack | 506 | 517.7 | +12 mm |
| Head tube angle | 71 | 70.5 | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.5 | 74.4 | −0.1° |
| Effective top tube | 510.3 | 515 | +5 mm |
| Chainstay length | 408 | 406 | −2 mm |
| Wheelbase | 971.8 | not listed | |
| BB drop | 72 | 72 | ±0 mm |
| BB height | 268.5 | not listed | |
| Standover | 736.5 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 440 | 450 | +10 mm |
| Fork length | 365 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 110.5 | 104 | −7 mm |
Differences are the Pinarello F1 minus the Orbea Orca M20i LTD. Full charts: 2025 Orbea Orca M20i LTD, 2025 Pinarello F1.
Where each sits in its class
Orbea Orca M20i LTDPinarello F1
Each bike is ranked against the other road bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Orbea Orca M20i LTDM20i LTD | Pinarello F1105 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Orbea Orca | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano ST-8170 Ultegra Di2 | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano Ultegra | not listed |
| Cassette | Shimano Ultegra | not listed |
| Crankset | Shimano Ultegra Mid Compact | not listed |
| Wheelset | OQUO Road Performance RP45LTD | MOST Ultralight Custom |
| Tire | Vittoria Corsa Pro G2.0 | MOST 30 |
| Brake | Shimano Ultegra R8170 Di2 | not listed |
| Rotor | Shimano Ultegra R8170 | not listed |
| Fork | not listed | Onda |
| Stem | not listed | Jaguar XA Aero TiCR |
| Headset | not listed | E-TiCR |
| Seatpost | not listed | Fsc Frontal Seat Clamp |
| Saddle | not listed | Atmos F24-97 |
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