2024 Pinarello Dogma F vs 2025 Orbea Orca M30
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Orbea Orca M30
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −0.4°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −1 mm
- About the same
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Pinarello Dogma F numbers we have for size 56 are missing the reach, stack and wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Pinarello Dogma F 56 | Orbea Orca M30 53 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Head tube angle | 73.2 | 72.8 | −0.4° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 73.5 | +0.5° |
| Chainstay length | 409 | 408 | −1 mm |
| Reach | not listed | 385 | |
| Stack | not listed | 552 | |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 548.5 | |
| Wheelbase | not listed | 981.2 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 70 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 152.9 |
Differences are the Orbea Orca M30 minus the Pinarello Dogma F. Full charts: 2024 Pinarello Dogma F, 2025 Orbea Orca M30.
Where each sits in its class
Pinarello Dogma FOrbea Orca M30
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other road bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Pinarello Dogma FDogma F Edizione Speciale Dura-Ace Di2 | Orbea Orca M30M30 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Pinarello Dogma F | Orbea Orca |
| Fork | Pinarello ONDA | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Dura Ace Di2 | Shimano 105 Di2 |
| Derailleur | Shimano FD-9200 Dura Ace, Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 Di2 |
| Cassette | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 |
| Chain | Shimano CN-HG | Shimano 105 DI2 |
| Crankset | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 |
| Chainring | Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 | Shimano 50T, Shimano 34T |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano SM-BB9200 Dura Ace | not listed |
| Wheelset | Princeton Wake 6560 DB | Orbea Alloy Tubeless |
| Tire | Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR | Vittoria Zafiro V |
| Brake | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 R7170 Di2 |
| Rotor | Shimano Rotor | Shimano 105 R7170 |
| Handlebar | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | OC RP31-R |
| Stem | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | OC RP22 |
| Seatpost | Pinarello Aero | SP 0.2 |
| Saddle | MOST Lynx Ultrafast Superflow | fizik Aliante R5 |
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