2024 Pinarello Dogma F vs 2025 Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTD
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTD
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −0.4°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −1 mm
- About the same
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Pinarello Dogma F numbers we have for size 56 are missing the reach, stack and wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Pinarello Dogma F 56 | Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTD 53 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Head tube angle | 73.2 | 72.8 | −0.4° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 73.5 | +0.5° |
| Chainstay length | 409 | 408 | −1 mm |
| Reach | not listed | 385 | |
| Wheelbase | not listed | not listed | |
| Standover | not listed | 776 | |
| Seat tube length | not listed | 524 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 368 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 122 |
Differences are the Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTD minus the Pinarello Dogma F. Full charts: 2024 Pinarello Dogma F, 2025 Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTD.
Where each sits in its class
Pinarello Dogma FOrbea Orca Aero M20iLTD
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other road bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Pinarello Dogma FDogma F Edizione Speciale Dura-Ace Di2 | Orbea Orca Aero M20iLTDM20iLTD |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Pinarello Dogma F | Orbea Orca Aero |
| Fork | Pinarello ONDA | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Dura Ace Di2 | Shimano ST-8170 Ultegra Di2 |
| Derailleur | Shimano FD-9200 Dura Ace, Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano Ultegra |
| Cassette | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano Ultegra |
| Chain | Shimano CN-HG | not listed |
| Crankset | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano Ultegra Mid Compact |
| Chainring | Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano SM-BB9200 Dura Ace | not listed |
| Wheelset | Princeton Wake 6560 DB | OQUO Road Performance RP45TEAM |
| Tire | Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR | Vittoria Corsa N.Ext G2.0 |
| Brake | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano Ultegra R8170 Di2 |
| Rotor | Shimano Rotor | Shimano Ultegra R8170 |
| Handlebar | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | not listed |
| Stem | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | not listed |
| Seatpost | Pinarello Aero | not listed |
| Saddle | MOST Lynx Ultrafast Superflow | not listed |
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