2024 Pinarello Dogma F Dura Ace vs 2025 Orbea Orca M30
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Orbea Orca M30
- Frame stack
- +50 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- +3.3°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- +1 mm
- About the same
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Pinarello Dogma F Dura Ace numbers we have for size 425 are missing the reach and wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Pinarello Dogma F Dura Ace 425 | Orbea Orca M30 53 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | not listed | 385 | |
| Stack | 502 | 552 | +50 mm |
| Head tube angle | 69.5 | 72.8 | +3.3° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.4 | 73.5 | −0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 500 | 548.5 | +49 mm |
| Chainstay length | 407 | 408 | +1 mm |
| Wheelbase | not listed | 981.2 | |
| BB drop | 67 | 70 | +3 mm |
| Seat tube length | not listed | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 102 | 152.9 | +51 mm |
Differences are the Orbea Orca M30 minus the Pinarello Dogma F Dura Ace. Full charts: 2024 Pinarello Dogma F Dura Ace, 2025 Orbea Orca M30.
Where each sits in its class
Pinarello Dogma F Dura AceOrbea Orca M30
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other road bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Pinarello Dogma F Dura AceDura Ace Di2 | Orbea Orca M30M30 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Pinarello Torayca T1100 1K Dream Carbon | Orbea Orca |
| Fork | Pinarello Onda Dogma F | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Dura-Ace R9270 Di2 | Shimano 105 Di2 |
| Derailleur | Shimano Dura-Ace R9250 Di2 Shadow | Shimano 105 Di2 |
| Cassette | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 |
| Chain | Shimano XTR M900 | Shimano 105 DI2 |
| Crankset | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 105 |
| Chainring | Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 | Shimano 50T, Shimano 34T |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano Dura-Ace R9100 | not listed |
| Wheelset | Shimano Dura-Ace C50 Carbon | Orbea Alloy Tubeless |
| Tire | Pirelli P Zero Race | Vittoria Zafiro V |
| Brake | Shimano Dura-Ace R9270 Hydraulic | Shimano 105 R7170 Di2 |
| Rotor | Shimano MT-RT900 CL | Shimano 105 R7170 |
| Handlebar | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | OC RP31-R |
| Stem | MOST Talon Ultra Fast | OC RP22 |
| Bar tape | MOST Ultragrip Evo | not listed |
| Headset | Pinarello Drop-in 1.5 inch | not listed |
| Seatpost | Pinarello Aero | SP 0.2 |
| Saddle | MOST Lynx Ultrafast Superflow | fizik Aliante R5 |
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