2012 Salsa Horsethief vs 2014 Santa Cruz 5010
The XL is the Santa Cruz 5010 size closest to your XL Salsa Horsethief. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Santa Cruz 5010
Compared with the Salsa Horsethief in XL, the Santa Cruz 5010 in XL places the top of the head tube 16 mm lower and 16 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- −16 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −16 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −1.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Horsethief numbers we have for size XL are missing the wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Horsethief XL | Santa Cruz 5010 XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 464.8 | 448.9 | −16 mm |
| Stack | 625.1 | 608.8 | −16 mm |
| Head tube angle | 69.5 | 68 | −1.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.5 | 73 | −0.5° |
| Effective top tube | 650 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 460 | not listed | |
| BB drop | 33 | not listed | |
| Standover | 797.4 | 747.1 | −50 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558.8 | not listed | |
| Fork length | 525 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 120 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | not listed | 1116.4 |
Differences are the Santa Cruz 5010 minus the Salsa Horsethief. Full charts: 2012 Salsa Horsethief, 2014 Santa Cruz 5010.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa HorsethiefSanta Cruz 5010
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