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2012 Salsa Horsethief vs 2014 Trek Stache

The 21 in is the Trek Stache size closest to your L Salsa Horsethief. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Trek Stache

Compared with the Salsa Horsethief in L, the Trek Stache in 21 in places the top of the head tube at about the same height and about as far forward, relative to the bottom bracket.

Frame stack
+2 mm
About the same height
Frame reach
+0 mm
About the same reach
Wheelbase
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
−15 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Horsethief numbers we have for size L are missing the wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSalsa Horsethief LTrek Stache 21 inDifference
Reach442.8443+0 mm
Stack622.9625+2 mm
Head tube angle68.668.6°±0.0°
Seat tube angle72.6not listed
Effective top tube638640+2 mm
Chainstay length460445−15 mm
BB drop25.5not listed
Standover796.3824+28 mm
Seat tube lengthnot listed508
Fork length545not listed
Head tube length110118+8 mm
Wheelbasenot listed1161
BB heightnot listed316

Differences are the Trek Stache minus the Salsa Horsethief. Full charts: 2012 Salsa Horsethief, 2014 Trek Stache.

Where each sits in its class

Salsa HorsethiefTrek Stache

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSalsa HorsethiefTrek Stache6
Framenot listedTrek Alpha Platinum
Forknot listedRockShox XC32
Shifternot listedShimano Deore
Derailleurnot listedSRAM X-5, Shimano Deore Shadow Plus
Cassettenot listedShimano HG62
Tirenot listedBontrager XR3
Brakenot listedShimano Acera M395
Headsetnot listedFSA NO.57E
Seatpostnot listedBontrager SSR
Saddlenot listedBontrager Evoke 1.5

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