2012 Salsa Horsethief vs 2014 Trek Stache
The 23 in is the Trek Stache size closest to your XL Salsa Horsethief. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Trek Stache
Compared with the Salsa Horsethief in XL, the Trek Stache in 23 in places the top of the head tube at about the same height and about as far forward, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- −0 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- −1 mm
- About the same reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −0.9°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −15 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Horsethief numbers we have for size XL are missing the wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Horsethief XL | Trek Stache 23 in | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 464.8 | 464 | −1 mm |
| Stack | 625.1 | 625 | −0 mm |
| Head tube angle | 69.5 | 68.6° | −0.9° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.5 | not listed | |
| Effective top tube | 650 | 661 | +11 mm |
| Chainstay length | 460 | 445 | −15 mm |
| BB drop | 33 | not listed | |
| Standover | 797.4 | 844 | +47 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558.8 | 545 | −14 mm |
| Fork length | 525 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 120 | 118 | −2 mm |
| Wheelbase | not listed | 1181 | |
| BB height | not listed | 316 |
Differences are the Trek Stache minus the Salsa Horsethief. Full charts: 2012 Salsa Horsethief, 2014 Trek Stache.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa HorsethiefTrek Stache
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Salsa Horsethief | Trek Stache6 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | not listed | Trek Alpha Platinum |
| Fork | not listed | RockShox XC32 |
| Shifter | not listed | Shimano Deore |
| Derailleur | not listed | SRAM X-5, Shimano Deore Shadow Plus |
| Cassette | not listed | Shimano HG62 |
| Tire | not listed | Bontrager XR3 |
| Brake | not listed | Shimano Acera M395 |
| Headset | not listed | FSA NO.57E |
| Seatpost | not listed | Bontrager SSR |
| Saddle | not listed | Bontrager Evoke 1.5 |
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