2017 Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal vs 2016 Surly Wednesday
The XL is the Surly Wednesday size closest to your XL - Rigid Fork Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Surly Wednesday
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal in XL - Rigid Fork, the Surly Wednesday in XL places the top of the head tube 19 mm lower and 21 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 10 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −19 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −21 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −10 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +0.2°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal numbers we have for size XL - Rigid Fork are missing the chainstay length. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal XL - Rigid Fork | Surly Wednesday XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 492 | 471.0 | −21 mm |
| Stack | 625 | 606.0 | −19 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.8 | 69.0° | +0.2° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.4 | 73.5° | −0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 667.2 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1174 | 1164.0 | −10 mm |
| BB drop | 64 | 55.0 | −9 mm |
| Standover | 814 | 841.0 | +27 mm |
| Seat tube length | 533.4 | 516.0 | −17 mm |
| Fork length | 483 | 468.0 | −15 mm |
| Head tube length | 135 | 130.0 | −5 mm |
| Chainstay length | not listed | 435.0 |
Differences are the Surly Wednesday minus the Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal. Full charts: 2017 Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus Charcoal, 2016 Surly Wednesday.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa Timberjack 25.5 Plus CharcoalSurly Wednesday
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
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