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2018 Salsa Timberjack 27.5 vs 2016 Surly Wednesday

The Surly Wednesday size closest to your M is the M. Compare the M instead

What changes on the Surly Wednesday

Compared with the Salsa Timberjack 27.5 in M, the Surly Wednesday in L places the top of the head tube 11 mm lower and 22 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.

Frame stack
−11 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
+22 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Head angle
+1.0°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this

The two frames

We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Timberjack 27.5 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length and wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSalsa Timberjack 27.5 MSurly Wednesday LDifference
Reach431453.0+22 mm
Stack608597.0−11 mm
Head tube angle6869.0°+1.0°
Seat tube angle73.673.5°−0.1°
Effective top tube610not listed
BB drop5855.0−3 mm
Standover735807.0+72 mm
Seat tube length431.8466.0+34 mm
Fork length500468.0−32 mm
Head tube length110120.0+10 mm
Chainstay lengthnot listed435.0
Wheelbasenot listed1143.0

Differences are the Surly Wednesday minus the Salsa Timberjack 27.5. Full charts: 2018 Salsa Timberjack 27.5, 2016 Surly Wednesday.

Where each sits in its class

Salsa Timberjack 27.5Surly Wednesday

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

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