2021 Salsa Timberjack vs 2022 Liv Intrigue
The L is the Liv Intrigue size closest to your XL Salsa Timberjack. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Liv Intrigue
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack in XL, the Liv Intrigue in L places the top of the head tube 20 mm lower and 41 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 17 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −21 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −41 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −17 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +0.1°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Salsa Timberjack is drawn. The Liv Intrigue numbers we have for size L are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack XL | Liv Intrigue L | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 492.6 | 452 | −41 mm |
| Stack | 625.5 | 605 | −21 mm |
| Head tube angle | 66.4 | 66.5 | +0.1° |
| Seat tube angle | 75.1 | 74.5 | −0.6° |
| Effective top tube | 659.3 | 620 | −39 mm |
| Chainstay length | 420.0 - 437.0 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1211.7 | 1195 | −17 mm |
| BB drop | 56.6 | not listed | |
| Standover | 792.9 | 762 | −31 mm |
| Seat tube length | 457.2 | 482 | +25 mm |
| Fork length | 510.5 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 125.0 | not listed |
Differences are the Liv Intrigue minus the Salsa Timberjack. Full charts: 2021 Salsa Timberjack, 2022 Liv Intrigue.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa TimberjackLiv Intrigue
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Salsa Timberjack | Liv IntrigueIntrigue |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | not listed | Liv Intrigue |
| Fork | not listed | RockShox 35 RL Gold |
| Rear shock | not listed | Fox Float Performance |
| Shifter | not listed | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Derailleur | not listed | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Cassette | not listed | SRAM PG-1150 SX |
| Chain | not listed | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Crankset | not listed | SRAM SX |
| Wheelset | not listed | Giant AM |
| Tire | not listed | Maxxis High Roller II |
| Brake | not listed | Shimano MT410 |
| Rotor | not listed | Shimano RT-26 |
| Handlebar | not listed | Giant Contact TR35 |
| Stem | not listed | Giant Contact SL |
| Grips | not listed | Liv Supera |
| Dropper post | not listed | Giant Contact Switch |
| Saddle | not listed | Liv Sylvia |
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