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2021 Salsa Timberjack 29 vs 2022 Liv Intrigue

The L is the Liv Intrigue size closest to your M Salsa Timberjack 29. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Liv Intrigue

Compared with the Salsa Timberjack 29 in M, the Liv Intrigue in L places the top of the head tube at about the same height and about as far forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 31 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
−2 mm
About the same height
Frame reach
−2 mm
About the same reach
Wheelbase
+31 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
+0.1°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this

The two frames

2021 Salsa Timberjack 29 (M)The Salsa Timberjack 29 frame drawn to scale.J 1165

Only the Salsa Timberjack 29 is drawn. The Liv Intrigue numbers we have for size L are missing the chainstay length.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSalsa Timberjack 29 MLiv Intrigue LDifference
Reach453.6452−2 mm
Stack607.4605−2 mm
Head tube angle66.466.5+0.1°
Seat tube angle75.174.5−0.6°
Effective top tube615.3620+5 mm
Chainstay length420-437not listed
Wheelbase1164.51195+31 mm
BB drop56.6not listed
Standover742.1762+20 mm
Seat tube length395482+87 mm
Fork length510.5not listed
Head tube length105not listed

Differences are the Liv Intrigue minus the Salsa Timberjack 29. Full charts: 2021 Salsa Timberjack 29, 2022 Liv Intrigue.

Where each sits in its class

Salsa Timberjack 29Liv Intrigue

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSalsa Timberjack 29Liv IntrigueIntrigue
Framenot listedLiv Intrigue
Forknot listedRockShox 35 RL Gold
Rear shocknot listedFox Float Performance
Shifternot listedSRAM SX Eagle
Derailleurnot listedSRAM SX Eagle
Cassettenot listedSRAM PG-1150 SX
Chainnot listedSRAM SX Eagle
Cranksetnot listedSRAM SX
Wheelsetnot listedGiant AM
Tirenot listedMaxxis High Roller II
Brakenot listedShimano MT410
Rotornot listedShimano RT-26
Handlebarnot listedGiant Contact TR35
Stemnot listedGiant Contact SL
Gripsnot listedLiv Supera
Dropper postnot listedGiant Contact Switch
Saddlenot listedLiv Sylvia

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