2023 Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ vs 2022 Liv Intrigue
The L is the Liv Intrigue size closest to your M Salsa Timberjack 27.5+. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Liv Intrigue
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ in M, the Liv Intrigue in L places the top of the head tube at about the same height and about as far forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 31 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- −2 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- −2 mm
- About the same reach
- Wheelbase
- +31 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- +0.1°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ is drawn. The Liv Intrigue numbers we have for size L are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ M | Liv Intrigue L | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 453.6 | 452 | −2 mm |
| Stack | 607.4 | 605 | −2 mm |
| Head tube angle | 66.4 | 66.5 | +0.1° |
| Seat tube angle | 75.1 | 74.5 | −0.6° |
| Effective top tube | 615.3 | 620 | +5 mm |
| Chainstay length | 420.0 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1164.5 | 1195 | +31 mm |
| BB drop | 56.6 | not listed | |
| Standover | 742.1 | 762 | +20 mm |
| Seat tube length | 395.0 | 482 | +87 mm |
| Fork length | 543.0 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 105.0 | not listed |
Differences are the Liv Intrigue minus the Salsa Timberjack 27.5+. Full charts: 2023 Salsa Timberjack 27.5+, 2022 Liv Intrigue.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa Timberjack 27.5+Liv Intrigue
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Salsa Timberjack 27.5+SLX 27.5+ | Liv IntrigueIntrigue |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Salsa Alloy V2 | Liv Intrigue |
| Fork | RockShox 35 Gold | RockShox 35 RL Gold |
| Shifter | Shimano Deore M6100 | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Derailleur | Shimano SLX M7100 | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Cassette | Shimano M6100-12 Deore | SRAM PG-1150 SX |
| Chain | Shimano Deore M6100 | SRAM SX Eagle |
| Crankset | Shimano MT510 | SRAM SX |
| Tire | Maxxis Minion DHF, Maxxis Rekon | Maxxis High Roller II |
| Hub | Shimano MT400-B, Shimano MT410-B | not listed |
| Rim | WTB ST i40 | not listed |
| Brake | Shimano MT401 | Shimano MT410 |
| Rotor | Shimano SM-RT10 | Shimano RT-26 |
| Handlebar | Race Face Chester | Giant Contact TR35 |
| Stem | Salsa Guide Trail | Giant Contact SL |
| Grips | Salsa File Tread | Liv Supera |
| Headset | FSA Orbit 1.5E | not listed |
| Dropper post | TranzX YSP05 | Giant Contact Switch |
| Saddle | WTB Volt | Liv Sylvia |
| Rear shock | not listed | Fox Float Performance |
| Wheelset | not listed | Giant AM |
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