2014 Santa Cruz 5010 vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey
The Medium (18) is the Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your L Santa Cruz 5010. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
Compared with the Santa Cruz 5010 in L, the Surly Karate Monkey in Medium (18) places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 11 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 40 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- +2 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- −11 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −40 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +3.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size L are missing the chainstay length. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Santa Cruz 5010 L | Surly Karate Monkey Medium (18) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 426 | 415.1 | −11 mm |
| Stack | 600.1 | 602.5 | +2 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68 | 71.5° | +3.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 73.0° | ±0.0° |
| Wheelbase | 1104.8 | 1064.9 | −40 mm |
| Standover | 738.7 | 792.7 | +54 mm |
| Chainstay length | not listed | 431.0 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 68.0 | |
| Seat tube length | not listed | 457.2 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 468.0 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 100.0 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Santa Cruz 5010. Full charts: 2014 Santa Cruz 5010, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Santa Cruz 5010Surly Karate Monkey
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