2014 Santa Cruz 5010 vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey
The Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your M is the Small (16). Compare the Small (16) instead
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
Compared with the Santa Cruz 5010 in M, the Surly Karate Monkey in Medium (18) places the top of the head tube 12 mm higher and 11 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 33 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- +12 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +11 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −33 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +3.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Santa Cruz 5010 M | Surly Karate Monkey Medium (18) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 404 | 415.1 | +11 mm |
| Stack | 590.7 | 602.5 | +12 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68 | 71.5° | +3.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 73.0° | ±0.0° |
| Wheelbase | 1098 | 1064.9 | −33 mm |
| Standover | 729 | 792.7 | +64 mm |
| Chainstay length | not listed | 431.0 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 68.0 | |
| Seat tube length | not listed | 457.2 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 468.0 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 100.0 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Santa Cruz 5010. Full charts: 2014 Santa Cruz 5010, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Santa Cruz 5010Surly Karate Monkey
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