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2014 Santa Cruz 5010 vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey

The Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your M is the Small (16). Compare the Small (16) instead

What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey

Compared with the Santa Cruz 5010 in M, the Surly Karate Monkey in xLarge (22) places the top of the head tube 38 mm higher and 36 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 5 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
+38 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+36 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
−5 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
+4.0°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
n/a
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The two frames

We can't draw these frames yet. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length. The numbers below still compare.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSanta Cruz 5010 MSurly Karate Monkey xLarge (22)Difference
Reach404440.1+36 mm
Stack590.7628.2+38 mm
Head tube angle6872.0°+4.0°
Seat tube angle7373.0°±0.0°
Wheelbase10981093.0−5 mm
Standover729853.5+125 mm
Chainstay lengthnot listed431.0
BB dropnot listed68.0
Seat tube lengthnot listed558.8
Fork lengthnot listed468.0
Head tube lengthnot listed125.0

Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Santa Cruz 5010. Full charts: 2014 Santa Cruz 5010, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.

Where each sits in its class

Santa Cruz 5010Surly Karate Monkey

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

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