2015 Specialized Camber Grom vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey
The Small (16) is the Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your Grom (Low) Specialized Camber Grom. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
Compared with the Specialized Camber Grom in Grom (Low), the Surly Karate Monkey in Small (16) places the top of the head tube 44 mm higher and 7 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 20 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- +44 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +7 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −20 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +2.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- +11 mm
- Longer: more planted
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Specialized Camber Grom numbers we have for size Grom (Low) are missing the seat angle. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Camber Grom Grom (Low) | Surly Karate Monkey Small (16) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 388mm | 394.9 | +7 mm |
| Stack | 547mm | 591.1 | +44 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.5° | 71.0° | +2.5° |
| Seat tube angle | not listed | 73.0° | |
| Effective top tube | 540mm | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 420mm | 431.0 | +11 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1066mm | 1046.1 | −20 mm |
| BB height | 291mm | not listed | |
| Standover | 621mm | 762.9 | +142 mm |
| Seat tube length | 394mm | 406.4 | +12 mm |
| BB drop | not listed | 68.0 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 468.0 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 100.0 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Camber Grom. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Camber Grom, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Camber GromSurly Karate Monkey
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Camber GromGrom | Surly Karate Monkey |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | RockShox Recon Gold | not listed |
| Rear shock | Fox Float CTD Evolution | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM X5 | not listed |
| Derailleur | SRAM X7 | not listed |
| Cassette | SRAM PG-1020 | not listed |
| Chain | SRAM 1031 | not listed |
| Crankset | SRAM S-1250 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM XR | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Snyper | not listed |
| Hub | Specialized Hi Lo | not listed |
| Brake | Tektro Gemini Comp | not listed |
| Grips | Specialized Sip Grip | not listed |
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