2015 Specialized Camber Grom vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey
The Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your GROM is the Small (16). Compare the Small (16) instead
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
Compared with the Specialized Camber Grom in GROM, the Surly Karate Monkey in L places the top of the head tube 70 mm higher and 46 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 81 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- +70 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +46 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +81 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −1.0°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- +3 mm
- Longer: more planted
The two frames
Specialized Camber Grom, GROMSurly Karate Monkey, LDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Camber Grom GROM | Surly Karate Monkey L | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 388mm | 434 | +46 mm |
| Stack | 547mm | 617 | +70 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.5° | 67.5° | −1.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 70.5° | 71.5° | +1.0° |
| Effective top tube | not listed | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 420mm | 423 | +3 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1066mm | 1147 | +81 mm |
| BB height | 291mm | not listed | |
| Standover | 621mm | 826 | +205 mm |
| Seat tube length | 394mm | 470 | +76 mm |
| BB drop | not listed | 44 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 521 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 110 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Camber Grom. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Camber Grom, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Camber GromSurly Karate Monkey
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Camber GromGrom | Surly Karate Monkey |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | RockShox Recon Gold | not listed |
| Rear shock | Fox Float CTD Evolution | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM X5 | not listed |
| Derailleur | SRAM X7 | not listed |
| Cassette | SRAM PG-1020 | not listed |
| Chain | SRAM 1031 | not listed |
| Crankset | SRAM S-1250 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM XR | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Snyper | not listed |
| Hub | Specialized Hi Lo | not listed |
| Brake | Tektro Gemini Comp | not listed |
| Grips | Specialized Sip Grip | not listed |
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