2017 Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b vs 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti
The S is the Salsa Timberjack Ti size closest to your M Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Salsa Timberjack Ti
Compared with the Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b in M, the Salsa Timberjack Ti in S places the top of the head tube 11 mm higher and 5 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- +11 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- −5 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- +0.8°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b, MSalsa Timberjack Ti, SDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b M | Salsa Timberjack Ti S | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 425mm | 420.0 | −5 mm |
| Stack | 590mm | 601.0 | +11 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68° | 68.8 | +0.8° |
| Seat tube angle | 75° | 74.4 | −0.6° |
| Effective top tube | 583mm | 587.0 | +4 mm |
| Chainstay length | 420mm | 420.0 - 437.0 | |
| Wheelbase | 1119mm | 1091.0 - 1107.0 | |
| BB drop | 23mm | 64.0 | +41 mm |
| Standover | 730mm | 713.0 | −17 mm |
| Seat tube length | 430mm | 381.0 | −49 mm |
| Fork length | 522mm | 483.0 | −39 mm |
| Head tube length | 105mm | 100.0 | −5 mm |
Differences are the Salsa Timberjack Ti minus the Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b. Full charts: 2017 Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650b, 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650bSalsa Timberjack Ti
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Camber Pro Carbon 650bPro Carbon 650b | Salsa Timberjack Ti |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | Fox 27.5 Performance Elite | not listed |
| Rear shock | Fox FLOAT Factory | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM X01 Eagle | not listed |
| Derailleur | SRAM X01 Eagle | not listed |
| Cassette | SRAM X01 Eagle | not listed |
| Chain | SRAM X01 Eagle | not listed |
| Crankset | SRAM XX1 Eagle | not listed |
| Tire | Specialized Purgatory, Specialized Ground Control | not listed |
| Hub | Roval Traverse | not listed |
| Brake | Shimano XT M8000 | not listed |
| Grips | Specialized Sip Grip | not listed |
| Dropper post | Specialized Command Post IRcc | not listed |
| Seatpost | Specialized Command Post IRcc | not listed |
| Saddle | Specialized Henge Expert | not listed |
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