2023 Specialized Demo Race vs 2025 Forbidden Supernought
The Forbidden Supernought size closest to your S3 is the S2. Compare the S2 instead
What changes on the Forbidden Supernought
Compared with the Specialized Demo Race in S3, the Forbidden Supernought in S3 places the top of the head tube 17 mm higher and 20 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 36 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- +17 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +20 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +36 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- +0.3°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Specialized Demo Race is drawn. The Forbidden Supernought numbers we have for size S3 are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Demo Race S3 | Forbidden Supernought S3 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 446mm | 466 | +20 mm |
| Stack | 632mm | 649 | +17 mm |
| Head tube angle | 62.8° | 63.1 | +0.3° |
| Seat tube angle | 76.8° | 75.8 | −1.0° |
| Chainstay length | 448mm | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1259mm | 1295 | +36 mm |
| Seat tube length | 420mm | 440 | +20 mm |
| Head tube length | 105mm | 110 | +5 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 629 | |
| BB drop | not listed | -10.6 | |
| BB height | not listed | 350 | |
| Standover | not listed | 769 |
Differences are the Forbidden Supernought minus the Specialized Demo Race. Full charts: 2023 Specialized Demo Race, 2025 Forbidden Supernought.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Demo RaceForbidden Supernought
Each bike is ranked against the other downhill bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Demo RaceRace | Forbidden Supernought1 |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | Öhlins DH38 M.1 29 | RockShox BoXXer Ultimate |
| Rear shock | Öhlins TTX 22 | RockShox Vivid Coil Ultimate |
| Shifter | SRAM X0 1 DH | SRAM Pod Rocker Controller |
| Derailleur | SRAM X01 DH | SRAM XX DH Transmission |
| Cassette | SRAM X01 DH | SRAM XX DH |
| Chain | SRAM PC-1130 | SRAM X0 Eagle Transmission |
| Crankset | SRAM X01 DH | SRAM XX DH |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM DUB | SRAM DUB |
| Tire | Specialized Butcher | Maxxis ASSEGAI, Maxxis DHRII |
| Hub | DT Swiss 350 | crankbrothers Synthesis Ratchet |
| Brake | Magura MT7 | SRAM Maven Silver |
| Handlebar | Renthal Fatbar 35 | Burgtec Ride Wide DH |
| Stem | Renthal Integra35 | Burgtec Direct Mount |
| Grips | Specialized Deity Lockjaw | not listed |
| Saddle | Specialized Henge DH | fizik Gravita Alpaca |
| Frame | not listed | Supernought Full Carbon |
| Chainring | not listed | SRAM 34T |
| Rim | not listed | crankbrothers Synthesis Alloy 2.0 DH |
| Rotor | not listed | SRAM HS2 |
| Headset | not listed | Cane Creek 40 |
| Seatpost | not listed | Burgtec Xpress |
| Accessory | not listed | Forbidden HD Guide, E.13 LG1 Plus |
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