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2014 Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon vs 2016 Surly Ogre

The Surly Ogre size closest to your M is the Small (16). Compare the Small (16) instead

What changes on the Surly Ogre

Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon in M, the Surly Ogre in M places the top of the head tube 40 mm higher and 31 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 65 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+40 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+31 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+65 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
+25 mm
Longer: more planted

The two frames

2014 Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon (M) and 2016 Surly Ogre (M), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Ogre is the colored outline on top.J 1000

Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon, MSurly Ogre, MDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Sirrus Pro Carbon MSurly Ogre MDifference
Reach380mm410.5+31 mm
Stack563mm603.4+40 mm
Head tube angle72°72.0°±0.0°
Seat tube angle73.5°73.0°−0.5°
Chainstay length415mm440+25 mm
Wheelbase1000mm1064.5+65 mm
Standover776mm795.7+20 mm
Seat tube length495mm457.2−38 mm
Fork length367447+80 mm
Head tube length165mm120−45 mm
BB dropnot listed68

Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon. Full charts: 2014 Specialized Sirrus Pro Carbon, 2016 Surly Ogre.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Sirrus Pro CarbonSurly Ogre

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Sirrus Pro CarbonPro CarbonSurly Ogre
FrameSpecialized SL4 FACTnot listed
ShifterShimano 105 R780not listed
DerailleurShimano 105, Shimano Ultegranot listed
CassetteShimano HG-62not listed
ChainKMC X10not listed
CranksetFSA SL-Knot listed
PedalsSpecialized Sirrusnot listed
WheelsetSpecialized AXIS 4.0not listed
TireSpecialized Espoir Elitenot listed
BrakeFormula C1not listed
StemSpecialized Elite-Setnot listed
SeatpostSpecialized CG-Rnot listed
SaddleSpecialized Targanot listed

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