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2015 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc vs 2016 Surly Ogre

The Surly Ogre size closest to your M is the S. Compare the S instead

What changes on the Surly Ogre

Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc in M, the Surly Ogre in Small (16) places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 8 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 14 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
+0 mm
About the same height
Frame reach
−8 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−14 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
−0.5°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
−4 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

2015 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc (M) and 2016 Surly Ogre (Small (16)), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Ogre is the colored outline on top.J 1060

Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc, MSurly Ogre, Small (16)Drawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc MSurly Ogre Small (16)Difference
Reach403mm394.9−8 mm
Stack591mm591.1+0 mm
Head tube angle71.5°71.0°−0.5°
Seat tube angle73.5°73.0°−0.5°
Effective top tube580mmnot listed
Chainstay length435mm431.0−4 mm
Wheelbase1060mm1046.1−14 mm
BB drop70mm68.0−2 mm
Standover785mm762.9−22 mm
Seat tube length485mm406.4−79 mm
Head tube length165mm90.0−75 mm
Fork lengthnot listed468.0

Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon Disc, 2016 Surly Ogre.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon DiscSurly Ogre

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Sirrus Comp Carbon DiscComp Carbon DiscSurly Ogre
FrameSpecialized Sirrus FACTnot listed
ShifterShimano Tiagranot listed
DerailleurShimano Tiagranot listed
CassetteShimano Tiagranot listed
ChainKMC X-10not listed
CranksetFSA Gossamernot listed
WheelsetSpecialized AXIS 1.0not listed
TireSpecialized Espoir Sport Reflectnot listed
BrakeTektro Gemininot listed
SeatpostSpecialized Pro Pavenot listed
SaddleSpecialized Targa Compnot listed

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