2015 Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc vs 2016 Surly Ogre
The Surly Ogre size closest to your M is the S. Compare the S instead
What changes on the Surly Ogre
Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc in M, the Surly Ogre in Small (16) places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 8 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 14 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- +0 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- −8 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −14 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −4 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc, MSurly Ogre, Small (16)Drawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc M | Surly Ogre Small (16) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 403mm | 394.9 | −8 mm |
| Stack | 591mm | 591.1 | +0 mm |
| Head tube angle | 71.5° | 71.0° | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.5° | 73.0° | −0.5° |
| Effective top tube | 580mm | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 435mm | 431.0 | −4 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1060mm | 1046.1 | −14 mm |
| BB drop | 70mm | 68.0 | −2 mm |
| Standover | 785mm | 762.9 | −22 mm |
| Seat tube length | 485mm | 406.4 | −79 mm |
| Head tube length | 165mm | 90.0 | −75 mm |
| Fork length | not listed | 468.0 |
Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon Disc, 2016 Surly Ogre.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon DiscSurly Ogre
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Sirrus Expert Carbon DiscExpert Carbon Disc | Surly Ogre |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Specialized Sirrus FACT | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano 105 | not listed |
| Cassette | Shimano 105 | not listed |
| Chain | KMC X-11 | not listed |
| Crankset | FSA Gossamer | not listed |
| Wheelset | Specialized AXIS 2.0 | not listed |
| Tire | Specialized Espoir Sport Reflect | not listed |
| Brake | Magura MTS | not listed |
| Seatpost | Specialized Pro Pave | not listed |
| Saddle | Specialized Targa Comp | not listed |
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