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2017 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon vs 2018 Surly Ogre

The Surly Ogre size closest to your M is the S. Compare the S instead

What changes on the Surly Ogre

Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon in M, the Surly Ogre in XL places the top of the head tube 41 mm higher and 44 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 50 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+41 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+44 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+50 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
+0.5°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
+5 mm
Longer: more planted

The two frames

2017 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon (M) and 2018 Surly Ogre (XL), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Ogre is the colored outline on top.J 1060

Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon, MSurly Ogre, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Sirrus Comp Carbon MSurly Ogre XLDifference
Reach403mm447+44 mm
Stack591mm632+41 mm
Head tube angle71.5°72.0°+0.5°
Seat tube angle73.5°73.0°−0.5°
Effective top tube578mm640+62 mm
Chainstay length435mm440+5 mm
Wheelbase1060mm1110+50 mm
BB drop70mm68−2 mm
BB height275mmnot listed
Standover784.6mm857.85+73 mm
Seat tube length485mm558+73 mm
Fork length398mm447+49 mm
Head tube length165mm150−15 mm

Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon. Full charts: 2017 Specialized Sirrus Comp Carbon, 2018 Surly Ogre.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Sirrus Comp CarbonSurly Ogre

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Sirrus Comp CarbonComp CarbonSurly OgreOgre
DerailleurShimano Tiagra 4700, Shimano TiagraShimano Deore Front, Shimano Deore Rear
ChainKMC X-10KMC X10
CranksetFSA Gossamer ProShimano T551
Bottom bracketFSA MegaExoSRAM PowerSpline
WheelsetSpecialized AXIS Elitenot listed
TireSpecialized Espoir Sport ReflectSurly Extraterrestrial
BrakeShimano AlivioAvid BB7, Tektro FR5
StemSpecialized FlowsetKalloy AS-008
SeatpostSpecialized Pro PaveKalloy SP-342
SaddleSpecialized Canopy CompWTB Volt Sport
Framenot listedSurly Ogre
Shifternot listedShimano Deore
Cassettenot listedShimano HG50
Chainringnot listedShimano T551
Rimnot listedWTB i29
Handlebarnot listedSurly Moloko
Gripsnot listedVelo Black
Headsetnot listedCane Creek 40

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