2008 Specialized Stumpjumper vs 2009 Surly Karate Monkey
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- −11 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −1.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −1 mm
- About the same
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Specialized Stumpjumper numbers we have for size 17 are missing the reach and stack. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Stumpjumper 17 | Surly Karate Monkey XS | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Head tube angle | 70.5° | 69 | −1.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 424mm | 423 | −1 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1064mm | 1053 | −11 mm |
| BB height | 304mm | not listed | |
| Standover | 759mm | 743 | −16 mm |
| Seat tube length | 432mm | 330 | −102 mm |
| Reach | not listed | 377 | |
| Stack | not listed | 597 | |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 560 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 55 | |
| Fork length | not listed | not listed | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 100 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper. Full charts: 2008 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2009 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized StumpjumperSurly Karate Monkey
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized StumpjumperStumpjumper | Surly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | Fox F90RL | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM X-7 | Shimano Deore |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore M581 LX, SRAM X-9 | Shimano Deore |
| Chain | SRAM PC-971 | KMC X-12 |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano Deore M542 | Shimano 73mm threaded |
| Pedals | crankbrothers Smarty | not listed |
| Tire | Specialized Fast Trak Control LK | Surly Dirt Wizard |
| Hub | Specialized Hi Lo, Shimano M525SL | not listed |
| Rim | Mavic X317 | not listed |
| Brake | Avid SD-5R, Avid FR-5 | SRAM BB5 |
| Frame | not listed | Surly Karate Monkey |
| Cassette | not listed | 12-speed, 11-51t |
| Crankset | not listed | Shimano Deore MT510 |
| Wheelset | not listed | Novatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5" |
| Rotor | not listed | SRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt |
| Handlebar | not listed | Salsa Rustler |
| Stem | not listed | Kalloy 31.8mm |
| Grips | not listed | Velo Black |
| Headset | not listed | Cane Creek |
| Seatpost | not listed | Kalloy 30.9mm |
| Saddle | not listed | Selle Italia |
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