2009 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon vs 2009 Surly Karate Monkey
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- +6 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- +0.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- +7 mm
- Longer: more planted
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon numbers we have for size 17 are missing the reach and stack. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 17 | Surly Karate Monkey M | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Head tube angle | 71° | 71.5 | +0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 424mm | 431 | +7 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1058mm | 1064 | +6 mm |
| BB height | 301mm | not listed | |
| Standover | 782mm | 811.1 | +29 mm |
| Seat tube length | 432mm | 457.2 | +25 mm |
| Reach | not listed | 427 | |
| Stack | not listed | 597 | |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 600.6 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 68 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 468 | |
| Head tube length | not listed | 90 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon. Full charts: 2009 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon, 2009 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Specialized Stumpjumper Expert CarbonSurly Karate Monkey
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Specialized Stumpjumper Expert CarbonExpert Carbon | Surly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Specialized SJ | Surly Karate Monkey |
| Fork | RockShox SID Race for SBC | not listed |
| Shifter | SRAM X-9 | Shimano Deore |
| Derailleur | SRAM X-0, SRAM X.0 | Shimano Deore |
| Cassette | Shimano HG61 | 12-speed, 11-51t |
| Chain | SRAM PC-971 | KMC X-12 |
| Crankset | Shimano SLX M762 | Shimano Deore MT510 |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano SLX M762 | Shimano 73mm threaded |
| Pedals | Shimano M-520 | not listed |
| Tire | S Works Fast Trak LK | Surly Dirt Wizard |
| Hub | Specialized Hi Lo, DT Swiss 370 | not listed |
| Rim | DT Swiss X420SL | not listed |
| Brake | Avid Elixir | SRAM BB5 |
| Handlebar | Specialized XC flat 31.8mm | Salsa Rustler |
| Stem | Specialized adjustable rise | Kalloy 31.8mm |
| Saddle | Specialized Format | Selle Italia |
| Wheelset | not listed | Novatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5" |
| Rotor | not listed | SRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt |
| Grips | not listed | Velo Black |
| Headset | not listed | Cane Creek |
| Seatpost | not listed | Kalloy 30.9mm |
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