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2010 Specialized Stumpjumper vs 2009 Surly Karate Monkey

The Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your 17.5 is the S. Compare the S instead

What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey

Compared with the Specialized Stumpjumper in 17.5, the Surly Karate Monkey in XL places the top of the head tube 23 mm higher and 63 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 22 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+23 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+63 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+22 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
+1.5°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
+7 mm
Longer: more planted

The two frames

2010 Specialized Stumpjumper (17.5) and 2009 Surly Karate Monkey (XL), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Stumpjumper is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Karate Monkey is the colored outline on top.J 1070

Specialized Stumpjumper, 17.5Surly Karate Monkey, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Stumpjumper 17.5Surly Karate Monkey XLDifference
Reach409mm472+63 mm
Stack592mm615+23 mm
Head tube angle70.5°72+1.5°
Seat tube angle73°73±0.0°
Chainstay length424mm431+7 mm
Wheelbase1070mm1092.1+22 mm
BB height304mmnot listed
Standover780mm866.8+87 mm
Seat tube length445mm558.8+114 mm
Effective top tubenot listed633.6
BB dropnot listed68
Fork lengthnot listed468
Head tube lengthnot listed105

Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper. Full charts: 2010 Specialized Stumpjumper, 2009 Surly Karate Monkey.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized StumpjumperSurly Karate Monkey

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized StumpjumperStumpjumperSurly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant
ForkFox Float F90 RLnot listed
ShifterShimano Deore M660Shimano Deore
DerailleurShimano Deore M660, Shimano SLX M772 ShadowShimano Deore
CassetteShimano HG6112-speed, 11-51t
ChainSRAM PC-971KMC X-12
CranksetShimano Deore M542Shimano Deore MT510
TireSpecialized S-Works Fast Trak LKSurly Dirt Wizard
HubSpecialized Hi Lo, Shimano M525SLnot listed
RimMavic X317not listed
BrakeAvid SD-3R, Avid FR-5SRAM BB5
SaddleSpecialized PhenomSelle Italia
Framenot listedSurly Karate Monkey
Bottom bracketnot listedShimano 73mm threaded
Wheelsetnot listedNovatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5"
Rotornot listedSRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt
Handlebarnot listedSalsa Rustler
Stemnot listedKalloy 31.8mm
Gripsnot listedVelo Black
Headsetnot listedCane Creek
Seatpostnot listedKalloy 30.9mm

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