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2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset vs 2009 Surly Karate Monkey

The S is the Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your 17.5 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey

Compared with the Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset in 17.5, the Surly Karate Monkey in S places the top of the head tube 17 mm higher and 5 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 23 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
+17 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
−5 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−23 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
+0.5°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
+7 mm
Longer: more planted

The two frames

2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset (17.5) and 2009 Surly Karate Monkey (S), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Karate Monkey is the colored outline on top.J 1068

Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset, 17.5Surly Karate Monkey, SDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Stumpjumper Frameset 17.5Surly Karate Monkey SDifference
Reach407mm402−5 mm
Stack580mm597+17 mm
Head tube angle70.5°71+0.5°
Seat tube angle73°73±0.0°
Chainstay length424mm431+7 mm
Wheelbase1068mm1044.9−23 mm
BB height304mmnot listed
Standover800mm781.6−18 mm
Seat tube length445mm406.4−39 mm
Effective top tubenot listed576.6
BB dropnot listed68
Fork lengthnot listed468
Head tube lengthnot listed80

Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset. Full charts: 2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset, 2009 Surly Karate Monkey.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Stumpjumper FramesetSurly Karate Monkey

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Stumpjumper FramesetSurly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant
Framenot listedSurly Karate Monkey
Shifternot listedShimano Deore
Derailleurnot listedShimano Deore
Cassettenot listed12-speed, 11-51t
Chainnot listedKMC X-12
Cranksetnot listedShimano Deore MT510
Bottom bracketnot listedShimano 73mm threaded
Wheelsetnot listedNovatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5"
Tirenot listedSurly Dirt Wizard
Brakenot listedSRAM BB5
Rotornot listedSRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt
Handlebarnot listedSalsa Rustler
Stemnot listedKalloy 31.8mm
Gripsnot listedVelo Black
Headsetnot listedCane Creek
Seatpostnot listedKalloy 30.9mm
Saddlenot listedSelle Italia

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