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2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset vs 2009 Surly Karate Monkey

The Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your 17.5 is the S. Compare the S instead

What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey

Compared with the Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset in 17.5, the Surly Karate Monkey in XS places the top of the head tube 17 mm higher and 30 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 15 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
+17 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
−30 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−15 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
−1.5°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
−1 mm
About the same

The two frames

2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset (17.5) and 2009 Surly Karate Monkey (XS), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Karate Monkey is the colored outline on top.J 1068

Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset, 17.5Surly Karate Monkey, XSDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Stumpjumper Frameset 17.5Surly Karate Monkey XSDifference
Reach407mm377−30 mm
Stack580mm597+17 mm
Head tube angle70.5°69−1.5°
Seat tube angle73°73±0.0°
Chainstay length424mm423−1 mm
Wheelbase1068mm1053−15 mm
BB height304mmnot listed
Standover800mm743−57 mm
Seat tube length445mm330−115 mm
Effective top tubenot listed560
BB dropnot listed55
Fork lengthnot listednot listed
Head tube lengthnot listed100

Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset. Full charts: 2011 Specialized Stumpjumper Frameset, 2009 Surly Karate Monkey.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Stumpjumper FramesetSurly Karate Monkey

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Stumpjumper FramesetSurly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant
Framenot listedSurly Karate Monkey
Shifternot listedShimano Deore
Derailleurnot listedShimano Deore
Cassettenot listed12-speed, 11-51t
Chainnot listedKMC X-12
Cranksetnot listedShimano Deore MT510
Bottom bracketnot listedShimano 73mm threaded
Wheelsetnot listedNovatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5"
Tirenot listedSurly Dirt Wizard
Brakenot listedSRAM BB5
Rotornot listedSRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt
Handlebarnot listedSalsa Rustler
Stemnot listedKalloy 31.8mm
Gripsnot listedVelo Black
Headsetnot listedCane Creek
Seatpostnot listedKalloy 30.9mm
Saddlenot listedSelle Italia

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