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2012 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29 vs 2010 Surly Karate Monkey

We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.

What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey

Frame stack
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Frame reach
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Wheelbase
−8 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
−4 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

2012 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29 (17.5)The Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29 frame drawn to scale.J 1072

Only the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29 is drawn. The Surly Karate Monkey numbers we have for size M are missing the reach and stack.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29 17.5Surly Karate Monkey MDifference
Reach410.5mmnot listed
Stack612mmnot listed
Head tube angle71.5°71.5±0.0°
Seat tube angle73.5°73−0.5°
Chainstay length435mm431−4 mm
Wheelbase1072mm1064−8 mm
BB drop63.5mm68+5 mm
BB height304mmnot listed
Standover810mm811.1+1 mm
Seat tube length445mm457.2+12 mm
Effective top tubenot listed600.6
Fork lengthnot listed468
Head tube lengthnot listed90

Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29. Full charts: 2012 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29, 2010 Surly Karate Monkey.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29Surly Karate Monkey

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 29Expert Carbon 29Surly Karate Monkey
ForkRockShox SID 29 Brainnot listed
ShifterSRAM X9not listed
DerailleurSRAM X-7, SRAM X.0not listed
CassetteSRAM PG-1050not listed
ChainKMC X10not listed
CranksetSRAM S-2200not listed
WheelsetRoval Control 29not listed
TireSpecialized S-Works Renegade, Specialized Renegade Controlnot listed
BrakeFormula R1not listed
SaddleSpecialized Phenomnot listed

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