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2007 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2009 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon

We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.

What changes on the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon

Frame stack
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Frame reach
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Wheelbase
+28 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
−7 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

We can't draw these frames yet. The Surly Karate Monkey numbers we have for size S are missing the reach and stack. The numbers below still compare.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Karate Monkey SSpecialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon 18Difference
Head tube angle7171°±0.0°
Seat tube angle7373°±0.0°
Effective top tube576.6not listed
Chainstay length431424mm−7 mm
Wheelbase1044.91073mm+28 mm
BB drop68not listed
Standover781.6793mm+11 mm
Seat tube length406.4457mm+51 mm
Fork length468not listed
Head tube length80not listed
BB heightnot listed301mm

Differences are the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2007 Surly Karate Monkey, 2009 Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon.

Where each sits in its class

Surly Karate MonkeySpecialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon

CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSurly Karate MonkeySpecialized Stumpjumper Expert CarbonExpert Carbon
Framenot listedSpecialized SJ
Forknot listedRockShox SID Race for SBC
Shifternot listedSRAM X-9
Derailleurnot listedSRAM X-0, SRAM X.0
Cassettenot listedShimano HG61
Chainnot listedSRAM PC-971
Cranksetnot listedShimano SLX M762
Bottom bracketnot listedShimano SLX M762
Pedalsnot listedShimano M-520
Tirenot listedS Works Fast Trak LK
Hubnot listedSpecialized Hi Lo, DT Swiss 370
Rimnot listedDT Swiss X420SL
Brakenot listedAvid Elixir
Handlebarnot listedSpecialized XC flat 31.8mm
Stemnot listedSpecialized adjustable rise
Saddlenot listedSpecialized Format

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