2009 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2010 Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT
The Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT size closest to your M is the 19. Compare the 19 instead
What changes on the Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT
Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in M, the Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT in 17 places the top of the head tube 8 mm lower and 22 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 6 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −8 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −22 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −6 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −7 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Surly Karate Monkey, MSpecialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT, 17Drawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Karate Monkey M | Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT 17 | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 427 | 405mm | −22 mm |
| Stack | 597 | 589mm | −8 mm |
| Head tube angle | 71.5 | 71° | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73 | 73° | ±0.0° |
| Effective top tube | 600.6 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 431 | 424mm | −7 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1064 | 1058mm | −6 mm |
| BB drop | 68 | not listed | |
| Standover | 811.1 | 782mm | −29 mm |
| Seat tube length | 457.2 | 432mm | −25 mm |
| Fork length | 468 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 90 | not listed | |
| BB height | not listed | 301mm |
Differences are the Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2009 Surly Karate Monkey, 2010 Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT.
Where each sits in its class
Surly Karate MonkeySpecialized Stumpjumper Carbon HT
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly Karate MonkeyKarate Monkey - Organic Eggplant | Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon HTS-Works Carbon HT |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Surly Karate Monkey | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Deore | SRAM XX |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore | SRAM XX XX SL |
| Cassette | 12-speed, 11-51t | SRAM XX |
| Chain | KMC X-12 | SRAM PC-1090 |
| Crankset | Shimano Deore MT510 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | Shimano 73mm threaded | Shimano BB-91 |
| Wheelset | Novatec hubs, WTB ST i40 TCS 2.0, 27.5" | Roval Control SL |
| Tire | Surly Dirt Wizard | Specialized S-Works Fast Trak LK |
| Brake | SRAM BB5 | Avid XX |
| Rotor | SRAM 180/160mm, 6-bolt | not listed |
| Handlebar | Salsa Rustler | not listed |
| Stem | Kalloy 31.8mm | Syntace F99 |
| Grips | Velo Black | not listed |
| Headset | Cane Creek | not listed |
| Seatpost | Kalloy 30.9mm | not listed |
| Saddle | Selle Italia | Specialized Phenom SL |
| Fork | not listed | Specialized Future Shock S90 |
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