2016 Surly Ogre vs 2018 Raleigh Cadent 3
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Raleigh Cadent 3
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- +141 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −47 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −1.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- +1 mm
- About the same
The two frames
Only the Surly Ogre is drawn. The Raleigh Cadent 3 numbers we have for size M are missing the stack.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Ogre xLarge (22) | Raleigh Cadent 3 M | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 440.1 | 581 | +141 mm |
| Stack | 628.2 | not listed | |
| Head tube angle | 72.0° | 70.5 | −1.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 431.0 | 432 | +1 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1093.0 | 1046 | −47 mm |
| BB drop | 68.0 | 70 | +2 mm |
| Standover | 853.5 | 792 | −62 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558.8 | 500 | −59 mm |
| Fork length | 468.0 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 125.0 | 160 | +35 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 557 |
Differences are the Raleigh Cadent 3 minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2016 Surly Ogre, 2018 Raleigh Cadent 3.
Where each sits in its class
Surly OgreRaleigh Cadent 3
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly Ogre | Raleigh Cadent 3Cadent 3 2018 |
|---|---|---|
| Shifter | not listed | Shimano Acera |
| Derailleur | not listed | Shimano Claris |
| Chain | not listed | KMC Z9 |
| Tire | not listed | Kenda Kwick Tendril |
| Brake | not listed | Tektro T275 |
| Grips | not listed | Raleigh Comfort |
| Saddle | not listed | Raleigh Fitness Series |
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