2018 Surly Ogre vs 2020 Merida SPEEDER
The ML is the Merida SPEEDER size closest to your M Surly Ogre. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Merida SPEEDER
Compared with the Surly Ogre in M, the Merida SPEEDER in ML places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 6 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- +3 mm
- About the same height
- Frame reach
- −7 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +1 mm
- About the same
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −2 mm
- About the same
The two frames
Surly Ogre, MMerida SPEEDER, MLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Ogre M | Merida SPEEDER ML | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 410.5 | 404 | −7 mm |
| Stack | 603.4 | 606 | +3 mm |
| Head tube angle | 72.0° | 71.5 | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | 73.5 | +0.5° |
| Effective top tube | 595 | 583 | −12 mm |
| Chainstay length | 440 | 438 | −2 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1064.5 | 1065 | +1 mm |
| BB drop | 68 | 65 | −3 mm |
| Standover | 795.7 | 806 | +10 mm |
| Seat tube length | 457.2 | 540 | +83 mm |
| Fork length | 447 | 395 | −52 mm |
| Head tube length | 120 | 190 | +70 mm |
Differences are the Merida SPEEDER minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2018 Surly Ogre, 2020 Merida SPEEDER.
Where each sits in its class
Surly OgreMerida SPEEDER
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly OgreOgre | Merida SPEEDER100 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Surly Ogre | Merida SPEEDER LITE II |
| Shifter | Shimano Deore | Shimano ST-EF505 |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore Front, Shimano Deore Rear | Shimano TY710, Shimano AceraX |
| Cassette | Shimano HG50 | SunRace CSM668 |
| Chain | KMC X10 | KMC M700 |
| Crankset | Shimano T551 | 170 mm-all sizes |
| Chainring | Shimano T551 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM PowerSpline | FSA TH-7420ST Cartridge Bearing |
| Tire | Surly Extraterrestrial | Maxxis Detonator |
| Rim | WTB i29 | not listed |
| Brake | Avid BB7, Tektro FR5 | Shimano ST-EF505 |
| Handlebar | Surly Moloko | Merida COMP TK |
| Stem | Kalloy AS-008 | Merida COMP CC |
| Grips | Velo Black | Merida COMP EC |
| Headset | Cane Creek 40 | Merida M2341 Neck |
| Seatpost | Kalloy SP-342 | Merida COMP CC |
| Saddle | WTB Volt Sport | not listed |
| Fork | not listed | Merida SPEEDER CF2 |
| Pedals | not listed | VPE-891 |
| Rotor | not listed | Shimano SM-RT10 |
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