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2018 Surly Ogre vs 2020 Merida SPEEDER

The ML is the Merida SPEEDER size closest to your L Surly Ogre. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Merida SPEEDER

Compared with the Surly Ogre in L, the Merida SPEEDER in ML places the top of the head tube 7 mm lower and 24 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 20 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
−7 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
−24 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−20 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
−0.5°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
−2 mm
About the same

The two frames

2018 Surly Ogre (L) and 2020 Merida SPEEDER (ML), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Surly Ogre is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Merida SPEEDER is the colored outline on top.J 1085

Surly Ogre, LMerida SPEEDER, MLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Ogre LMerida SPEEDER MLDifference
Reach427.6404−24 mm
Stack613606−7 mm
Head tube angle72.0°71.5−0.5°
Seat tube angle73.0°73.5+0.5°
Effective top tube615583−32 mm
Chainstay length440438−2 mm
Wheelbase1084.61065−20 mm
BB drop6865−3 mm
Standover824.5806−19 mm
Seat tube length508540+32 mm
Fork length447395−52 mm
Head tube length130190+60 mm

Differences are the Merida SPEEDER minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2018 Surly Ogre, 2020 Merida SPEEDER.

Where each sits in its class

Surly OgreMerida SPEEDER

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSurly OgreOgreMerida SPEEDER100
FrameSurly OgreMerida SPEEDER LITE II
ShifterShimano DeoreShimano ST-EF505
DerailleurShimano Deore Front, Shimano Deore RearShimano TY710, Shimano AceraX
CassetteShimano HG50SunRace CSM668
ChainKMC X10KMC M700
CranksetShimano T551170 mm-all sizes
ChainringShimano T551not listed
Bottom bracketSRAM PowerSplineFSA TH-7420ST Cartridge Bearing
TireSurly ExtraterrestrialMaxxis Detonator
RimWTB i29not listed
BrakeAvid BB7, Tektro FR5Shimano ST-EF505
HandlebarSurly MolokoMerida COMP TK
StemKalloy AS-008Merida COMP CC
GripsVelo BlackMerida COMP EC
HeadsetCane Creek 40Merida M2341 Neck
SeatpostKalloy SP-342Merida COMP CC
SaddleWTB Volt Sportnot listed
Forknot listedMerida SPEEDER CF2
Pedalsnot listedVPE-891
Rotornot listedShimano SM-RT10

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