2018 Surly Ogre vs 2020 Trek FX Sport
The XL is the Trek FX Sport size closest to your XL Surly Ogre. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Trek FX Sport
Compared with the Surly Ogre in XL, the Trek FX Sport in XL places the top of the head tube 8 mm higher and 28 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 30 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- +8 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- −28 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −30 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +0.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- −2 mm
- About the same
The two frames
Only the Surly Ogre is drawn. The Trek FX Sport numbers we have for size XL are missing the seat angle.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Ogre XL | Trek FX Sport XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 447 | 419 | −28 mm |
| Stack | 632 | 640 | +8 mm |
| Head tube angle | 72.0° | 72.5° | +0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | not listed | |
| Effective top tube | 640 | 620 | −20 mm |
| Chainstay length | 440 | 438 | −2 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1110 | 1080 | −30 mm |
| BB drop | 68 | 65 | −3 mm |
| Standover | 857.85 | 818 | −40 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558 | 559 | +1 mm |
| Fork length | 447 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 150 | 210 | +60 mm |
| BB height | not listed | 285 |
Differences are the Trek FX Sport minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2018 Surly Ogre, 2020 Trek FX Sport.
Where each sits in its class
Surly OgreTrek FX Sport
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly OgreOgre | Trek FX Sport4 |
|---|---|---|
| Frame | Surly Ogre | Trek Alpha |
| Shifter | Shimano Deore | Shimano Tiagra 4700 |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore Front, Shimano Deore Rear | Shimano Tiagra 4700 |
| Cassette | Shimano HG50 | Shimano Tiagra HG-500 |
| Chain | KMC X10 | KMC X10 |
| Crankset | Shimano T551 | Shimano R460 |
| Chainring | Shimano T551 | not listed |
| Bottom bracket | SRAM PowerSpline | not listed |
| Tire | Surly Extraterrestrial | Bontrager R1 Hard-Case Lite |
| Rim | WTB i29 | not listed |
| Brake | Avid BB7, Tektro FR5 | Shimano MT201 |
| Handlebar | Surly Moloko | Bontrager Satellite Plus IsoZone |
| Stem | Kalloy AS-008 | not listed |
| Grips | Velo Black | not listed |
| Headset | Cane Creek 40 | not listed |
| Seatpost | Kalloy SP-342 | not listed |
| Saddle | WTB Volt Sport | Bontrager H1 |
| Fork | not listed | Trek FX |
| Pedals | not listed | Wellgo M141 |
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