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2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc vs 2016 Surly Ogre

The xLarge (22) is the Surly Ogre size closest to your XL Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Surly Ogre

Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc in XL, the Surly Ogre in xLarge (22) places the top of the head tube 22 mm lower and 20 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.

Frame stack
−22 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
+20 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+2 mm
About the same
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
−4 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc (XL) and 2016 Surly Ogre (xLarge (22)), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Ogre is the colored outline on top.J 1091

Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc, XLSurly Ogre, xLarge (22)Drawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc XLSurly Ogre xLarge (22)Difference
Reach420mm440.1+20 mm
Stack650mm628.2−22 mm
Head tube angle72°72.0°±0.0°
Seat tube angle73°73.0°±0.0°
Effective top tube620mmnot listed
Chainstay length435mm431.0−4 mm
Wheelbase1091mm1093.0+2 mm
BB drop70mm68.0−2 mm
Standover861mm853.5−8 mm
Seat tube length570mm558.8−11 mm
Head tube length225mm125.0−100 mm
Fork lengthnot listed468.0

Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon Disc, 2016 Surly Ogre.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Sirrus Elite Carbon DiscSurly Ogre

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Sirrus Elite Carbon DiscElite Carbon DiscSurly Ogre
FrameSpecialized Sirrus FACTnot listed
ShifterShimano Soranot listed
DerailleurShimano Soranot listed
ChainKMC X9not listed
CranksetFSA Temponot listed
WheelsetSpecialized AXIS Classicnot listed
TireSpecialized Espoir Sport Reflectnot listed
BrakeTektro Gemininot listed
SaddleSpecialized Targa Sportnot listed

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