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2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite vs 2016 Surly Ogre

The Surly Ogre size closest to your M is the S. Compare the S instead

What changes on the Surly Ogre

Compared with the Specialized Sirrus Elite in M, the Surly Ogre in XL places the top of the head tube 43 mm higher and 41 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 44 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
+43 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+41 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+44 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
+0.5°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
+1 mm
About the same

The two frames

2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite (M) and 2016 Surly Ogre (XL), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Specialized Sirrus Elite is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Surly Ogre is the colored outline on top.J 1066

Specialized Sirrus Elite, MSurly Ogre, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSpecialized Sirrus Elite MSurly Ogre XLDifference
Reach406mm447+41 mm
Stack589mm632+43 mm
Head tube angle71.5°72.0°+0.5°
Seat tube angle73.5°73.0°−0.5°
Effective top tube580mmnot listed
Chainstay length439mm440+1 mm
Wheelbase1066mm1110+44 mm
BB drop70mm68−2 mm
BB height272.5mmnot listed
Standover780mm857.85+78 mm
Seat tube length485mm558+73 mm
Head tube length165mm150−15 mm
Fork lengthnot listed447

Differences are the Surly Ogre minus the Specialized Sirrus Elite. Full charts: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite, 2016 Surly Ogre.

Where each sits in its class

Specialized Sirrus EliteSurly Ogre

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSpecialized Sirrus EliteEliteSurly Ogre
ShifterShimano Aceranot listed
DerailleurShimano Acera, Shimano Alivionot listed
ChainKMC X9not listed
CranksetShimano Aceranot listed
PedalsSpecialized Sirrusnot listed
TireSpecialized Espoir Sport Reflectnot listed
SaddleSpecialized Targa Sportnot listed

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