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2016 Surly Ogre vs 2018 Trek FX Sport

The M is the Trek FX Sport size closest to your Small (16) Surly Ogre. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Trek FX Sport

Compared with the Surly Ogre in Small (16), the Trek FX Sport in M places the top of the head tube 7 mm lower and 8 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 21 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
−7 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
+8 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+21 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
±0.0°
About the same head angle
Chainstays
+7 mm
Longer: more planted

The two frames

2016 Surly Ogre (Small (16))The Surly Ogre frame drawn to scale.J 1046

Only the Surly Ogre is drawn. The Trek FX Sport numbers we have for size M are missing the seat angle.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Ogre Small (16)Trek FX Sport MDifference
Reach394.9403+8 mm
Stack591.1584−7 mm
Head tube angle71.0°71.0°±0.0°
Seat tube angle73.0°not listed
Chainstay length431.0438+7 mm
Wheelbase1046.11067+21 mm
BB drop68.065−3 mm
Standover762.9743−20 mm
Seat tube length406.4457+51 mm
Fork length468.0not listed
Head tube length90.0160+70 mm
Effective top tubenot listed570
BB heightnot listed285

Differences are the Trek FX Sport minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2016 Surly Ogre, 2018 Trek FX Sport.

Where each sits in its class

Surly OgreTrek FX Sport

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSurly OgreTrek FX Sport4
Framenot listedTrek Alpha
Forknot listedTrek FX
Shifternot listedShimano Tiagra
Derailleurnot listedShimano Tiagra, Shimano RD-4700 Tiagra
Cassettenot listedShimano Tiagra
Chainnot listedKMC X10
Cranksetnot listedShimano R460
Tirenot listedBontrager AW1 Hard-Case Lite
Brakenot listedShimano MT201
Handlebarnot listedBontrager Satellite Plus IsoZone
Seatpostnot listedBontrager SSR
Saddlenot listedBontrager H1

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